John 14:23 Jesus replied, ‘Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24 Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.’
mikehill4jesus “Jesus only knows those who share in his suffering”
26th July 2017 (21.05) My .mp3 audio Podcast linked to this Blog
Jesus taught in John 12:26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honour the one who serves me.
The true Christian as described by the Lord Jesus in, John 14:23 Jesus replied, ‘Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.’, share in His suffering.
Jesus taught in John 15:18-19 New International Version – UK (NIVUK)
The world hates the disciples
18 ‘If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
The world hates Jesus and those people who are no longer in the world (John 14:23)
The Apostle Paul taught in 2 Corinthians 1:1-14 New International Version – UK (NIVUK)
1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother,
To the church of God in Corinth, together with all his holy people throughout Achaia:
2 Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Praise to the God of all comfort
3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. 5 For just as we share abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ. 6 If we are distressed, it is for your comfort and salvation; if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which produces in you patient endurance of the same sufferings we suffer. 7 And our hope for you is firm, because we know that just as you share in our sufferings, so also you share in our comfort.
8 We do not want you to be uninformed, brothers and sisters, [The Greek word for brothers and sisters (adelphoi) refers here to believers, both men and women, as part of God’s family; also in 8:1; 13:11.] about the troubles we experienced in the province of Asia. We were under great pressure, far beyond our ability to endure, so that we despaired of life itself. 9 Indeed, we felt we had received the sentence of death. But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves but on God, who raises the dead. 10 He has delivered us from such a deadly peril, and he will deliver us again. On him we have set our hope that he will continue to deliver us, 11 as you help us by your prayers. Then many will give thanks on our behalf for the gracious favour granted us in answer to the prayers of many.
Paul’s change of plans
12 Now this is our boast: our conscience testifies that we have conducted ourselves in the world, and especially in our relations with you, with integrity [Many manuscripts holiness] and godly sincerity. We have done so, relying not on worldly wisdom but on God’s grace. 13 For we do not write to you anything you cannot read or understand. And I hope that, 14 as you have understood us in part, you will come to understand fully that you can boast of us just as we will boast of you in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Much of 2 Corinthians is Paul’s defence of his apostolic ministry, which is also a defence of the reliability of the gospel he preached at Corinth. One of the things that led some people to doubt Paul’s status as an apostle was his life of suffering. How can God be with Paul, so full of the Spirit, an apostle of the exalted Jesus, when he spends his life under duress? Shouldn’t an apostle be a success in ministry?
Instead of minimizing his sufferings, however, Paul exults in them. In chapter 4, he talks about the suffering of the apostles, which leads to life for those who are in the church, and in chapter 11 he provides a famous catalogue of affliction. Far from being a disqualification for apostolic ministry, Paul sees his sufferings as the central part of his apostolic resume, because they prove that He is ministering a crucified Messiah. By suffering in his ministry, Paul bears the brand-marks of Jesus.
But what does this have to do with our suffering? Paul is talking about his apostolic sufferings, big important afflictions, persecutions for his faith. Can we apply a passage that deals with these special, unique sufferings of the apostle Paul to our trivial disappointments, failures, and troubles?
The key to answering this question is to recognize that Paul and the other apostles are not alone in ministry in the church. The apostles, prophets, and pastors of the church have a unique ministry, and share in a particular way in the sufferings of Christ, but they are not the only ones who have a ministry in the church. According to Paul, we all have a ministry in the church and our sufferings are part of our ministry.
Those described in John 14:23 live a full life in company with God while suffering as they try to win new disciples for their Lord Jesus, and that is why he knows them. It is to those professing Christians, who are actually impenitent sinners, he describes in John 14:24 whom he does not know.
Jesus taught in Matthew 7:21-23 New International Version – UK (NIVUK)
True and false disciples
21 ‘Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord,” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?” 23 Then I will tell them plainly, “I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!”
WOE TO THE FALSE CHRISTIANS WHO REFUSE TO SHARE IN CHRIST’S SUFFERINGS AND EVEN CAUSE THEM
When the False Christians as described by Jesus in John 14:24, shun the true Disciples he describes in John 14:23, then they are also shunning Jesus and his Father who live with them. This even more evil, if it could be, when the shunned true Disciples are ministers for Jesus empowered by the Holy Spirit to help make new Disciples of Jesus. These are not the ministers in Churchianity.
I found this excellent meaning of “I never knew you”;
which must be understood consistent with the omniscience of Christ; for as the omniscient God he knew their persons and their works, and that they were workers of iniquity; he knew what they had been doing all their days under the guise of religion; he knew the principles of all their actions, and the views they had in all they did; nothing is hid from him. But, as words of knowledge often carry in them the ideas of affection, and approbation, the meaning of Christ here is, I never had any love, or affection for you; I never esteemed you; I never made any account of you, as mine, as belonging to me; I never approved of you, nor your conduct; I never had any converse, communication, nor society with you, nor you with me. The Persic version [an early Bible] reads it, “I have not known you of old”, from ancient times, or from everlasting; I never knew you in my Father’s choice, and my own, nor in my Father’s gift to me, nor in the everlasting covenant of grace; I never knew you as my sheep, for whom, in time, I died, and called by name; I never knew you believe in me, nor love me, or mine; I have seen you in my house, preaching in my name, and at my table administering mine ordinance; but I never knew you exalt my person, blood, righteousness, and sacrifice; you talk of the works you have done, I never knew you do one good work in all your lives, with a single eye to my glory; wherefore, I will neither hear, nor see you; I have nothing to do with you.
So here, Christ declares, he knew them not; that is, he did not like them; he would not admit them into his presence and glory; but said, “depart from me, you workers of iniquity.”
The former of these expressions contains the awful sentence pronounced by Christ, the judge; which is, banishment from his presence, than which nothing is more terrible: for as it is his presence that makes heaven, it is his absence that makes hell; and this supposes a place and state, whither they are banished; which is elsewhere called their “own place, the lake” which burns with fire and brimstone; “everlasting fire”, prepared for the devil and his angels. Departure from Christ’s presence is the punishment of loss, and being sent to everlasting burnings, is the punishment of sense; and the whole, as it is an instance of strict justice, so a display of Christ’s almighty power. The latter expression contains the character of these persons, and in it a reason of their punishment; they were “workers of iniquity”: it may be, neither adulterers, nor murderers, nor drunkards, nor extortioners, nor thieves, or any other openly profane sinners; but inasmuch as they did the work of the Lord deceitfully, preached themselves, and not Christ; sought their own things, and not his; what they did, they did with a wicked mind, and not with a view to his glory; they wrought iniquity, whilst they were doing the very things they pleaded on their own behalf, for their admission into the kingdom of heaven.
DON’T BE ONE OF THEM – IT’S YOUR CHOICE